[AUDIO LOGO] SPEAKER 1: OTAN, Outreach and Technical Assistance Network. DEBBIE JENSEN: There we go. OK, what we're going to do-- my name is Debbie Jensen, and I've worked at adult ed since '87. [CHUCKLES] And I retired just after the pandemic started. And so I was able to participate for a while and retired. And my grandchildren are with me now, so it's a different kind of experience. But I work for OTAN, which keeps me involved and keeps me excited and happy. So I'm happy to be here. Now I want to share with you CK-12. What we're going to do today is we're going to look at what it is, what it can do for you. We're going to look at the adult education new website and the resources that are there as an educator then as a student would see it. We're going to look a little bit at my experience using CK-12, and we're going to go live a couple of times because there's no way for you to understand just how cool this is, unless you get to see it. So all right. CK-12 is a foundation. It was founded with a mission to enable everyone to learn in their own way. It is international, and there are 236 million users being served right now. And that number goes up, so I can kind of change this slide. 342,000 FlexBooks have been customized. 1.83 billion questions have been answered. What else can I tell you about how great they are? They've been around since 2007. Hello there, Marjorie. I didn't realize you're here. And their philosophy is beautiful. They truly want worldwide. Everyone that have education [AUDIO OUT]. There will never be a paywall. And so you will always be able to use them. So that's remarkable. OK. A couple more things about them-- quality-- their content has been developed by 100-plus PhDs, professors, teachers, authors, NASA scientists, and many others over the last 15 years. And the accessibility is it's on all devices. And they ensure that. As a new device comes along, they make sure that they can still be seen there so your students will have access on any device 24/7. So that's cool. Now if we were to go live, this is the first screen you're going to see. So if you do ck12.org, you would see this. And right here where it says SWITCH TO TEACHER VERSION, it would change the slide slightly, OK? But what you would see if we continued going down-- oh, that's right. It's a slide. I can't do it. It's not live, which you begin to see the things that they offer for the student. And also notice there's a couple of things here that are interesting. We have Flexi new, and we have the class code. So again, as a student so that they would be able to get in. Now I just switched to the teacher version. All I did was I click that button, and this is what you see, A FREE Assistant to Every Teacher, because besides having great content that really fits your need for your students, it would be nice to have someone help you. And they do that. They pay attention to what the student's doing, so how much time they spent, what they had troubles with. They have an AI practice so that if they get the question wrong, they change the question and get more help. And so they do all these things to try and make it just easier for you as a teacher. OK, upon going across the top, they ask you for subjects. And they ask what you want to teach today. And this is what you would see. The original courses that were offered were in the STEM courses, so we had science, technology, engineering, and mathematics. In partnership, they also have added English, economics, government history, and we have been instrumental in helping them with CTE and ESL. So I circle the adult education because as of two years ago, that didn't exist. Meta-- I'm sorry. We go to OER conferences and meet Karl, who is the CTE person. And they would have lovely conversations about how adult education needs to have CK-12. And so they made it happen. And so we were invited in, and we have a partnership with them. Just this year, they modified it even more so that we really have-- then we will look at that. So you can see what's there. But just take a look at what's here. You can see your high school courses here, OK? You can see math-handled level so that if you're ABE, I'm not going to be looking for algebra, right? Probably I would be looking more at grade 4 because that's where most of my ABE students were, OK? All right. If we continued on, they talk about the different kinds of resources, not just what they call as a FlexBook, which is a digital textbook that has component parts like video, interactive simulations, those kinds of things. And we look at them. But besides that, they have simulations that you can look up just that. And so one of the teachers-- they were good with this one. They didn't need that. That wasn't important. But to have a simulation that he could start at the beginning or the ending of his class to get the students involved, that was very useful. And the adaptive practice is where concepts are-- they have a huge, huge databank of questions. Now we think, well, how is that useful to me? Or could it be useful to me? And yes, it can be because one of the things you can do in CK-12 is you can customize what you are using of theirs, make it your own. Or you can use their platform and make your very own digital FlexBook completely your own. And so at that point, you're thinking-- I think they asked all those questions, but they've got thousands and thousands and thousands of questions that you can use theirs at different levels. And so it just makes the whole process easier. Then PLIX are called Play, Learn, Interact, and eXplore in the math and the science concepts. Now I didn't teach math or science. Well, I did teach math. So it was like, hmm, how can I use these simulations in physics and chemistry or these [AUDIO OUT] ESL except, have your students ever had a question about why the moon and the sun, or how do we get an eclipse? What is an earthquake? Ah, California, you might get them interested. And so they can use them too. You just have to see what's best and then be able to use it. All right. Automatic grading and reporting-- if you have an LMS already at your school. You might have Schoology. You might have Canvas. You might have Google Classroom. We had Google Classroom. If you have those, this integrates perfectly with them, and the grades will appear in your grade book. But let's say you don't. Well, then make a class here. And that CK-12 do the grading for you and record that. And it gives you things, and we will look more at this. This is a heat map, so then instantly you can tell that your students are getting it or not. All right. As a teacher, you want to meet everyone's needs. But you already know you can't. There's no way for you to teach to everyone's level in your classroom. But you can with the help of technology. And with CK-12, they believe that the different modalities-- some people learn better one way or another. And so what happens is they have related content so that if a student's going through a lesson and they just want a little bit more, they can click on the related content. And there, they can find videos or other things that are on the same topic that they can use. So CK-12 offers you [ INAUDIBLE ] And that's cool. OK, now here I wanted to stop and go live because-- so let's see if I can do this to go that way. Let's go. Maybe that way, I think. And maybe that way. OK. Are you guys still seeing a free assistant for every teacher? This is the online posts. You guys see it? You guys see it. I know-- AUDIENCE: Nobody's texting yes, but I-- someone's text yes out there, DEBBIE JENSEN: OK. All right. So we are now live at the site. I have already put in mine. You will be asked to set up an account. For several reasons, you can look at the site and see all the good stuff that's there. You can. But you want to have the library of your stuff. Yes. AUDIENCE: They see look at the live site, not the live site. AUDIENCE: You must have shared that back screen. [INTERPOSING VOICES] DEBBIE JENSEN: See, I knew it. I knew it. You're seeing yours and not mine. All right. So now, let's try it again. All right, now we want that one. I still want the share sound. Thank you for paying attention to that. Now are you seeing it? I should be looking-- AUDIENCE: Participants can now see your application. DEBBIE JENSEN: All right. AUDIENCE: Not live site-- DEBBIE JENSEN: OK. All right. So this is where you'll start. You'll get your own account. At that place, you can tell them what subjects you teach, OK? Why is that important? Because then they're going to try and figure out what you might like. And they'll throw those things at you. So they'll say you might like this. You might like that. So you'll set it up that way. This one is my account. I have several. Now on this, I want to show you one thing because if I forget to show you-- this is one thing that just changed. It used to be along the top right. There, was library. And library is the most important place because every time you find something you like, you have to put it somewhere. So you just dump it in your library. Now they have filters to help you find it. Who put it there? But you've got to have a place to go. The library's gone. And so the first time I was back, I contacted Katie at CK-12. And she said, oh, yeah. It's right here. OK? So here, you're going to see the Dashboard, My Classes, My Library, and the Settings, OK? My classes would be as you create your classes, you can access them quickly there. Dashboard is where we're going to go. But I just wanted to show you that that's where your library is and all the way through it, wherever you are, if you see a simulation you like, if you see a picture you like, if you see a book, if you see a real history, real world, I think they're called, which is a real application. And they're short. But they're really nice because they really catch your attention. Any of those things, you can just put them in your library. OK, so I'm going to go to the dashboard. And because I told them I was interested in math, that's what they gave me. The last thing I was looking at was I was trying to help create a course for a CTE course in the medical field. And so you're seeing some of the things. And they're trying to help, OK? You can see that you can org-- Recommended by Subjects, Standards Aligned, Concept Maps. And then as you go down, you can just see the different amazing things that they're trying to help you with. OK, now what we're going to do-- we're going to go to Subjects. And we're going to go to the Adult Basic Education section. And notice its division divided up into our programs. OK. Now I'm just going to pick a course. You can pick anything. This is foundational math. One question was asked to me one time was when they looked at the ABE courses-- I'm jumping ahead. There's a lot of math ones. And you're thinking, why would you have so many? The reason was because we were grabbing things that had already been created. But remember, you can start at the same place. You can look through the CK-12 materials, find what you like, and create your own. And so also, when you go through the different things, you might find, well, that's not quite the way I would teach it. I teach it a little differently. OK, so here I am. It tells you a little bit about it. Shana Friend was the one who did create it. She's a high school equivalency teacher in Washington. And she's done some remarkable work. My name is there only because I put it in. [CHUCKLES] So it's her work. All right. So now Choose-- if I click on Choose, I can assign it. Right there. I can add it to the library. I can customize it, make changes in it. I can add it to a FlexBook that I'm creating so that you can combine FlexBooks from a variety of sources. I can share it with my class. And there's one more. I can download it as a PDF. A way to put that. So downloaded it is a PDF. Do we ever need that? Do we ever have a student that has to be paper because they have no access? You've got it. All right, so here we go. These are the chapters. And I think I'm going to go all the way down here to present. And we're just going to pick one. OK, so what you're going to see is that it's clear. It's nice to read. It's easy to read. You can add pictures. You can add videos, problems, more videos. There's a quiz that's associated with this. It's right down here and says View Quiz. Here you're seeing icons. This is to find insights about the class. This is so that they can actually highlight and underline in the class. Here is where you can get the insights as a teacher. Related Content-- this one, I don't think has any added yet. But you can add it. So it's not like you have to take anything the way it is, OK? All right. Now let's just go this way. See, the previous lesson, I think this one's cool looking because graphing is such an interesting thing to try to teach, very visual. You can make them long lessons. You can make them shorter lessons. But again, all of it's there. This one is a simulation. And so you would launch it right here, right in the lesson, OK? All right. What else can I show you? AUDIENCE: So since the program is available, is it available in different-- DEBBIE JENSEN: Languages? AUDIENCE: --languages? DEBBIE JENSEN: In two ways. yes. The answer to your question is yes. Let me see where I want to go to show you that. [VOCALIZING] There you go. All right, so we're going to go back up here to Explore. And there's a listing of the languages. But you can always use Google. And so that's one of the ways that originally it was used when you can use Google Translate. And that's what? 90 languages right there. Not a perfect translation, but they are putting it into languages. And I think there's like six Spanish, one of them, is the ones they're working on, making courses directly in Spanish. But there are some others. I think I've got the wrong screen. Huh. Oh, there it is. Here's the translations, Spanish, Korean, Dutch, Chinese, Greek, and Polski. All right. But again, Google Translate always works. All right. Any questions? Because we're going to come back live. So if you think of something as we're going through the slides and you think of something that you'd like to see, let me know because we're going to go live again at the end. What time are we then? AUDIENCE: Debbie, when you said that you can create-- you can send that directly to [ INAUDIBLE ] directly go from there [ INAUDIBLE ] DEBBIE JENSEN: That's what I did. That's what I did. Export or you don't [ INAUDIBLE ] You just click a button, and I'll show you. Because that's the way I did it. I didn't have Canvas, and I didn't have Schoology. But some schools do. And if you do, that would be great because those require you to work with your district because the district [ INAUDIBLE ] has to click the button. Google Classrooms don't have to do a button. You can just do [ INAUDIBLE ] OK, let's see if I can now start my share here and go back to the PowerPoint. [VOCALIZING] OK. AUDIENCE: Think you're sharing again. DEBBIE JENSEN: Yes. Did I do that? No, I did not before I got here. So let's get back out. Nope. Let's try again. Let's go to Share Screen. This is the one I'm sharing. Share the sound and share. OK. Everybody should be on the same page, I'm hoping. We're going to start from the current slide. I am so proud of this because this is what started this year. Now you are going to see people that are here at this conference. And that just feels so good. And so they are anxious. I was able to get with the lady who [ INAUDIBLE ] who is the head of CK-12 and a marvelous woman. She's Indian. And so she [ INAUDIBLE ] anxious for worldwide, and very anxious to incorporate adults because she knows this isn't just a world where we're trying to educate children. Everyone should get it. And so it's wonderful. And she is always checking the statistics. Too many people are coming there. I'm like, wait, wait, the thing with adult ed is we have to get to the [ INAUDIBLE ] where suddenly, it explodes. And we haven't gotten to the explosion part. As you can see that we haven't gotten there yet, but we will. Think about your admin. Think about how much money it costs to buy textbooks for your high school book department. And think about how fast they are obsolete, the history book, the science book. AUDIENCE: So-- AUDIENCE: I'm going to let you talk first. [CHUCKLES] AUDIENCE: --a lot of those things have to do with-- curriculum is set by school districts and states. And some of these things on who decides what you're teaching, I might have grade lessons. But as a teacher, I have limitations on, is it set curriculum by the my district or my state because we are accredited. Let's say I wanted to make [ INAUDIBLE ] my school. And obviously, I'm going to use their curriculum. But I'm not accredited. So at the end of the courses or at the end when they finish all the modules, yes, they have their learning, which is great. And yes, but I cannot provide them with a certificate because me, my person, is not accredited. DEBBIE JENSEN: OK, you don't have a high school diploma. AUDIENCE: Right. And so-- DEBBIE JENSEN: So it has to be at the admin level for that. ABE, I'm fine. ESL, you're fine. High school diploma [INTERPOSING VOICES] AUDIENCE: Municipal diploma, our board has to have approved it for the regular K-12 if we're an adult school that's in the K-12. And that's why a lot of colleges don't do high school diploma because I don't think there's a mechanism for them to even adopt those. [ INAUDIBLE ] that's right. DEBBIE JENSEN: So this is a big question, but it's been done. If you go and there's a place on that one place for high schools, they have schools near you, but they also have school [ INAUDIBLE ] And there are whole districts and whole sections of that. AUDIENCE: In California. DEBBIE JENSEN: California, we're still small. AUDIENCE: Mostly private. DEBBIE JENSEN: But there are some here in southern [ INAUDIBLE ] AUDIENCE: Well, I think it becomes a thing about how textbook companies make money. Imagine learning. Just bought literally everything. Literally everything I've ever used since 2005 as a digital teacher. So that concerns me greatly. That seems like an antitrust thing that that's just [ INAUDIBLE ] DEBBIE JENSEN: No, but your point is well-taken. We are at a beginning point. You can begin the discussion. You can put these things in your textbook, in your classrooms to help. And then you can [INTERPOSING VOICES] AUDIENCE: Yeah, and it's bringing me to this idea when, with the keynote speaker opened up with a video what's the internet? I don't think I'm ever going to use it because that already gave a lot of information. It has a little bit of that feeling where-- imagine international education or worldwide education. And it's accepted by whoever. Once you make that leap, you don't have that issue because [ INAUDIBLE ] AUDIENCE: Just for like my campus, 600 students. My brain does the math automatically. This will save me $20,000 a year. However, these people who have worked so hard to get their material approved, they're going to fight this. This is a billion dollar business. DEBBIE JENSEN: Oh, it's huge. It reminds me of the election-- AUDIENCE: And I don't want to derail from the conversation. AUDIENCE: And me being a teacher at heart-- that's what I did for 27 years-- I pretended while we're having this whole thing-- and I'm supposed to just be moderating-- I went on, and I thought, OK. Pretend you're the delinquent that you teach, find the hack. I'm looking right now, and there isn't a hack. There are no loose answer keys right now. The best I could find is kids on TikTok that can do like a lesson to cheat. But really, there's no cheats out there like I can find for multiple other platforms that I have used, which is kind of good. That's a good thing. DEBBIE JENSEN: It makes you feel like they're on your side. AUDIENCE: Yes. DEBBIE JENSEN: They're trying to help you. AUDIENCE: I mean, I can find no flaw with it because I've looked at it since we went to-- since we went to Sacramento last month. AUDIENCE: It looks amazing. The possibilities are wide open. It's great that it's international. It's great that it will be in different languages. I know myself that I'm connected or well connected with Mexico and different organizations. If I had an international school and I can forget their curriculum, obviously, somebody will back me in the sense of certifications. I think learning is learning. Obviously, if you come in and you-- let's say, you take the whole course for high school diploma and then you go to an accredited school and then you just complete the program there to get that piece, then you come in with a learning. So therefore, you just essentially prep for the test and take it there so somebody will get the credit. But it doesn't really matter if you're really looking at where we're benefiting. If we're really benefiting the student, then it makes perfect sense. And who cares about who gets the credit or how we go about creating the partnership that's going to give them the certificate or that diploma. But-- AUDIENCE: Immediately how I see I can use it being that-- I've been a teacher, OK? I would definitely use this as a supplement just like I did Khan Academy 10 years ago. DEBBIE JENSEN: [ INAUDIBLE ] I just signed up. I immediately [ INAUDIBLE ] AUDIENCE: I have a textbook, and I have another-- [INTERPOSING VOICES] AUDIENCE: We're teaching what is adopted by the board because you got to get it DEBBIE JENSEN: Well, you have to work with K-12. This is Common Core. This one is Common Core. Now the ABE-- the Adult School standards are just starting. We have one course that they went through and actually did the work to show it. But we're Common Core already. So if you're having to talk to the school board, you say, look, you've already accepted these standards. You wrote the standards. It's written to those standards. So they're there. OK, so just a couple of things-- AUDIENCE: Sure. DEBBIE JENSEN: I know. AUDIENCE: No, I really appreciate your-- DEBBIE JENSEN: If you find something, you click here. What you do is you have a unique URL that you can send out right there. That's how fast and easy. There's nothing more. You don't have to set up a class. That's just useful for the information it can give you about how long the students are on it and what they're having troubles with. But you don't have to, OK? You also have-- navigation helps. So you've got the same things that we have with others. You've got your breadcrumb trail. You've got the forward and the backward. Those are all available for you. Class Insights, which will tell you about what's available of their students. And we'll look at that a little more [ INAUDIBLE ] teacher. I had to teach my students how to read a book with comprehension. And so being able to have them underline the text, put notations there, and have their notes available to them, that's cool because you'd do that in other books. So I love that. Also, let me move all this stuff out of the way. You have practice. Now the other one I showed you wasn't practicing said quiz. That was because when we create our own or modify, we are in the quiz section, where it's the questions that we pick up. Practice is on the courses created by CK-12. And they use AI to have 10 questions. They tell you exactly the level that the students asked. Are they moving up to a medium level? Where are they-- how many have they got done? What's happening with them? Also, over here, we have Flexi, who is a student tutor, who they can ask questions and get more help with. AUDIENCE: There's a question from the chat. This may be a question for later on, but how much can we add, edit, remove from FlexBook. And what would help align a little more to standards based on the current point the gentleman brought up? DEBBIE JENSEN: OK, it's-- let's go live. I will show you where it shows you. All right. Back to Share Screen. There. No? I have to get it to where I want it first, right? OK, now I got to share. That's probably right. OK, so then we're back to here. And I'm going to share my screen, share my screen. Here. So one thing I did not point out that I should have-- OK, here's your CCRs. And-- no, no-- college is the Common Core Standards for math. This is another set of standards that are science standards that are accepted. And so if I needed to see if they are aligned to the Common Core Standards, I could find them. And so yes, you will have to look at specific courses. But they will have listed what alignment there is. Texas got involved in a big way, and they created courses. And you can see the alignment to the standards that are there. So standards are there. We'll just have to see how they align with ours. It's going to take a little more work. And if you do it, let us know because then we will put the courses here in our Adult Education section. And we will put the alignments to the standards that you have found so that we can then give it to everyone. Adult ed teachers have a tendency to recreate the world all the time. Wouldn't it be nice to share and find things already made? And so as we all work together, we'll be able to accomplish more. So there are standards here. AUDIENCE: Which will be a great continuum to this presentation. We actually got to get together as an adult day, and then develop some lessons that are kind of-- DEBBIE JENSEN: Absolutely. I think-- oh, you want me to go back? AUDIENCE: As a moderator, I'm not supposed to be commenting, so I'm like, all right. I think one of the first things that my leadership would ask me is, how do we know this will be sustainable? Where Is the funding coming from to back this? And I know it says nonprofit when I look it up on Wikipedia. But specifically, which nonprofit? I mean, that's it. Because if the district is going to allow me to use something, they want to know-- we have to be committed to it for seven years because board language says that. And that's pretty much universal throughout every board of every K-12 in the state of California. Once we-- and it's another reason that book publishers are not allowed to change something in a seven-year cycle because we commit to use it and/or buy it usually. But in this case, you use it. They would like to know how can I guarantee that it will not change or-- AUDIENCE: Or drop out the-- AUDIENCE: Or the cost will go up. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you may not have that answer, but I mean, I-- DEBBIE JENSEN: No, those are all the conversations you've got to have, and you know them because you've been in the boardrooms. I haven't been in boardrooms, but I can tell you if there are. One of the testimonials that I will show you is from the person who was teach-- he's in charge of the money. And his school district's in Coeur d'Alene. And he adopted it, and then said to the teachers, you're going to do this. And we have another one down here in Southern California that has done the same thing. So yes, it's who you're going to talk to. We can get all excited, and you can use this in your classroom. And your students will benefit. AUDIENCE: That's-- DEBBIE JENSEN: That's the point. Can we make it bigger? AUDIENCE: Sure. DEBBIE JENSEN: And we just have to get the right folks, right? AUDIENCE: I have a question. You said in Coeur d'Alene, [ INAUDIBLE ] private school. It was a state district. DEBBIE JENSEN: A state district. OK. So it is happening, but it's happening-- AUDIENCE: In little pockets. OK. DEBBIE JENSEN: Little pockets. Because you're right. You've got to fight some big money. OK. Just a minute. Got to make sure that I clicked everything. OK, so let's see what else can I show you. Oh, we need to go from the current slide. There we go. All right. Next slide. OK, this is where the notes will appear. So the student has their notes. They can print them, and they can use them. You can also-- let's see. OK, I think I showed you that one. I get so distracted. Sorry. Oh, I wanted to show you this. Usually, you don't think about study guides. Who thinks those are great? They have the students help write them. They had the students tell them what they needed help with and needed to remember. And so the study guides are pretty cool too. I look at it, and I say, oh, my goodness, this is good [ INAUDIBLE ] It's good stuff. So that was nice too. Participants only see slide controls when you're in presentation mode. OK. We'll start it again. Let's stop that. And I will focus-- come here to Zoom and go to-- I'm going to have to go to my PowerPoint first. I've added it twice. Maybe that's my problem. AUDIENCE: [ INAUDIBLE ] DEBBIE JENSEN: We'll try that one to see if that's going to make it better. And then we'll go to Zoom. And now we'll share. AUDIENCE: Oh, [ INAUDIBLE ] DEBBIE JENSEN: OK, and this one allows us to sound. OK. All right. And now we're going to go from the current slide. OK. All right. Let's see if I can advance because that's where I had problems is when I tried to advance it. It wouldn't go. OK. All right. Here's the tool icon, and then you can see the related content. And it used to be that when you start a lesson, they would have the content there, but they have changed it and put it here so that you can add to it. And so it's just-- I think it's one of the reasons that I really like it is because they're very dynamic. And they're very focused on trying to constantly not just keep it up to speed but to improve it. And you asked about the money. You need to google her name [ INAUDIBLE ] see how that works. AUDIENCE: Under her name, all I could find was it's grant-funded. I could even get backing if I knew which grants, so. DEBBIE JENSEN: And you probably-- yeah. And you know what? You would get a response. You could go to CK-12, and they want us to participate. And if they find why we aren't quite jumping, they would be very interested-- AUDIENCE: Well, and if it has a good curriculum and a good way to attach it to Google Classroom or whatever platform you use, then you can test pilot with an online course as a supplemental to whatever you use. The students have access. They're gaining more of skill practice. And so they can move on and essentially achieve the mark that you want, right? DEBBIE JENSEN: Right. You can test it. You can test it. AUDIENCE: --you achieve the levels that you want to, or the students graduate or get those ABE CASAS payment points then enroll them. DEBBIE JENSEN: [ INAUDIBLE ] with an online thing, teaching with the textbook, and using this, and see. Absolutely. I would love to be involved with that. That would be great. OK, back to your beginning screen, how do you get started? You can go by Subject. You can go by Explore. I showed you that this is where you-- your library is. So when you want to find it, you can find it. OK, continued on, they have started. This is a new one. Here's where you put your search. I'm looking for apples. Or no, I wouldn't do that. I'm looking for percentages or something. You put it here. But they've got this little guy here, and they're just trying to make it easier. Every time I go back, it's like they're trying. And you can use the Support to ask questions. Now when you use the search-- let's say I put in car loan. What's going to come up is this screen. And I want to point out the top. You can find the things that are in your library, and you can get it there. This is what CK-12 has. So they have Car Loan REAL WORLD, Annuities for Loans READ, Simple Interest Equation. But that didn't quite do it for me. That wasn't quite what I wanted. So I clicked on Community Contributed. And I have car loan project. I have show me the loan money. Maybe much more going to be what I want. So don't forget the Community Contributed. It's massive, people who use things that they brought in, people that have taken CK-12 and used it. Now CK-12, that's their own material. But they can't vet what somebody else is done. So you're still back to yourself, having to say, is this exactly what I want? But take it out of it's not, OK? All right. OK. And then again, the screen. I wanted you to point out a couple of other things that are here so that you can see. I also love the FlexBooks. This was COVID, remember? Remember when we were teaching March, the May, and your students are just sliding? And they're going to start up in the fall. And you don't know what to do because you're just watching them lose anything because you couldn't quite get the whole curriculum together just to short list. They came up with FlexBooks, and they were designed for whichever math or science topic that you needed to keep them up with that that was there. And they're very tight [ INAUDIBLE ] And they fit ABE so well because there's concepts that students don't get. All right, now we're going to try something, and I have my fingers crossed. But it's not looking-- oh, there it is. OK. Online should be able to see and hear this just fine. You guys, maybe not. But what this is is this tutorial on how to use the simulations. And I wanted you to see how amazing they are, OK? So fingers crossed that you're going to be able to hear it. Fingers crossed. [VIDEO PLAYBACK] [MUSIC PLAYING] - Welcome to the sim instructor tutorial. These things are appropriate for middle school-- DEBBIE JENSEN: When you go to simulation, there will be a tutorial button at the top. And so that's what I suggest you look at. - --is broad from-- DEBBIE JENSEN: In our last class, we actually read the closed captioning, but I can't quite get to it. Let's see if I can. But I just-- I'm so surprised by what they did-- [MUSIC PLAYING] Let's see if I can bump it forward. - --are mechanics-- DEBBIE JENSEN: OK, so this is one about running. And you're learning about all of these-- - --user's device and personal preference. DEBBIE JENSEN: --issues. It's so much more complicated-- [INTERPOSING VOICES] And so you can add different things to this. They wrap it. They're showing you different issues. And this is just one simulation. They've got so many of them that are available to you. Let's see if I can get back down here to my bar. There's all sorts of things you can modify, things you can learn. OK, where have I got my-- - --for anyone feeling lost, in which students can watch and-- DEBBIE JENSEN: How you can full screen it. You can make it smaller. You can add things. But at the very end-- and I think you're just gonna have to take my word for it. At the very end, they allow you and your students to add to this-- - --once the user has-- DEBBIE JENSEN: --so that you have another example of using this concept in science. - --they can move on to a set of real-world examples. DEBBIE JENSEN: You can-- - Some of these are provided each with a-- DEBBIE JENSEN: So this would be a community contribute. - --allowing the student-- DEBBIE JENSEN: So there's many. They talk about this. How does friction need to stop a moving vehicle? Apparently, that's the same concept as the friction with the other issues. - Users are also invited to submit their own examples, including an image-- DEBBIE JENSEN: But you can add your own. And then you can have the students keep pondering, what's the weather application of this? And add it. - --the user will maintain the-- DEBBIE JENSEN: So that was just amazing to see you add a similar example. OK, all right. - We are eager to open up a conversation with the physics education community. DEBBIE JENSEN: Let's go to the next screen. And this is the one that kind of breaks my heart because I wanted you to hear her because this is where she talks about what it was like for her and when she went-- - When I was a little girl in elementary school-- DEBBIE JENSEN: --and what she saw-- - --the teachers were using chalkboard and chalk. Recently, when I went to visit classrooms-- DEBBIE JENSEN: And this was her school. There she was. And she went back-- - --it was the same story. I noticed things haven't changed. They were still using chalkboard and chalk to demonstrate subjects like geometry. DEBBIE JENSEN: --so that there could be simulations. - Every time a teacher wanted to change the shape he or she was working with, they would have to erase-- DEBBIE JENSEN: And she even shows-- - This made the students lose connection very often-- DEBBIE JENSEN: And you see these things. And it's-- - --because it's really hard to remember-- DEBBIE JENSEN: --that this is something that-- - I wanted to make a tool that teachers and students could not only create but actually interact-- [END PLAYBACK] DEBBIE JENSEN: I'm going to give you the presentation so you can see it. OK, so this is one of the kinds of things, and it's pretty simple. Drag the red point on one line to house A and house B. Drag the red points of the other line to house C and house D. Have you created parallel lines? That's just a simple question, but it's interactive. And there's lots of them. OK. This-- oh, how funny. OK, now I continue down. OK, this is the guy in Coeur d'Alene. He's the director of curriculum district administration of the Coeur d'Alene School District in Idaho. And his point was he wanted all of his students to be able to go at the speed they needed to go to, that they weren't being driven too fast or too slow, and that they would have access to [ INAUDIBLE ] And that was his. We also have-- she's very funny because they have over 200 testimonials. And I listen to them all. And they're just fun. But her comment was-- Kate comes in and says, teacher, I'm sorry. I didn't do my homework. I don't have computer at home. And another kid says, dude, use your phone. There's also teachers here that they used it for over one year to the next. And she said, I'm watching my students critically think. I'm watching my students begin to realize where they need to ask the question and how they can find the answer themselves. And that was powerful, critical thinking. Another teacher-- she just didn't like to wheel the cart with all of her stuff, so she put all her stuff online so that she had it available to her. And then this one-- parent coming in and apologizing that he couldn't [ INAUDIBLE ] child because he couldn't speak English and read it well enough. And she showed him Google Translate so that he can help. And that was cool. All right. I do like technology. I do. But sometimes I just get so frustrated. I don't know why. Well, let's try this one. [SIDE CONVERSATION] Oh, that's weird. It's so typical. [LAUGHTER] I just can't tell you. OK, now we're going to go through the adult side because this makes me just-- it makes me smile because I know these people. I know the administrators. And so this is her story. She got her high school diploma-- what? AUDIENCE: That's was my high school. DEBBIE JENSEN: [AUDIO OUT] Oh, it's so cool. [AUDIO OUT] Let's try just clicking. I-- [INTERPOSING VOICES] DEBBIE JENSEN: Oh, it's not video. It's a screenshot. So that one doesn't happen. You can see it online. OK. So if we kept going down, these are the courses that we have available right now. I want so much more because when we started this, they said, then find what you can. So that's me searching, all right? And so again, you'll see mostly math. But I needed a reading course. And so what I did was I went to the fourth grade science lessons because everybody wants to know about earthquakes and eclipses and these how does a plant grow? And who cares if you're reading about it in your ABE class. And so I created the course outline and use their questions, OK? It can be done. And it's not hard because you're using raw materials. You just put them all together and cut out what you don't want. Yes? Well, I'm jumping ahead. So I already created my account. But in ESL-- not much there yet, huh? Well, it's all community-created, and you did it, right? Oh, that's the label we have to go. We did it. Yeah, yeah because-- so they didn't create it. And even if you use their course and change nothing because you have taken it, it will be called community contributed. AUDIENCE: So if I have it, I'm looking at what I like. And before I put it into my classroom, can I mess with it? Can I change it? DEBBIE JENSEN: There you have it. OK, so here's high school. You can always run your whole course. I mean, you look at the titles you've got, biology, economics, government, history-- move that up-- chemistry, physics, algebra 1, algebra 2, pre-algebra. So you've got it pretty much there. Oh, I was trying that. No? That doesn't work now. I tried that. I tried that. I tried that. OK, we're going to stop sharing, and we're just going to go back in. Maybe it's just having a hard day. OK, now we'll go back to screen sharing. Back here. OK, let's see if we can do it now. OK, so here is the high school equivalency. This was that lady that I told you about, Shana Friend. AUDIENCE: One finger. One finger. DEBBIE JENSEN: One finger. Oh, thank you. OK, so she put these together. And if you know the high school diploma-- no, the GED, you can see the titles. And she created them for adults. So she massaged it a bit. Even if I get down to my kindergarten materials, I might change a photo. I might not. It's not that-- there's not bouncing rabbits and things like that, OK? I think we're going to go five. I think that that's just what's being determined for us. We should go live. OK, so now we're live. And I can then go back to Zoom. And we will share that Nope, hit it wrong, sorry. This one. And go to Share Screen and go to that one. OK. OK, so we're going to go to the Subjects section, and we're going to go down through these. OK, so we're in the-- sorry, this is kind of in your way. But I can scroll up. OK, here's your high school equivalency. And then CTE is just starting. These are really good courses, though. This anatomy and physiology, I took it to one of the teachers, and she's a critical lady. She was looking for certain lessons that are hard to find in textbooks. And they were there. She said this is good. Then we have CTE health and science cosmetology I took from the males and things like that and hair. And so the science ones are there. It's not going to be complete, but it's something to start with. And the Career and Technical Education topics was me trying to convince my district that even if you're automotive, there's something there. So I just was looking for topics. ESL-- we are just starting. Basic grammar and intermediate grammar-- I do not teach ESL. They said it's a little high. It would be OK for intermediate but too high for beginners. And then I need somebody to make it [ INAUDIBLE ] And think about what must be a good place to put your EL Civics. OK? The employment line, that was created by Susan Gaer, so. AUDIENCE: Isn't there an EL Civics Collaborative? DEBBIE JENSEN: Yeah, they're working through OTAN and trying to do that. AUDIENCE: The one thing I did see that I was missing like for the core subjects for a high school diploma, they don't seem to have intro to literature, world literature, American literature, and British literature. DEBBIE JENSEN: OK, so what you're going to do is you're going to go back up the search. You're going to write it up there, and you're going to go to Community Contribute. Because they started with STEM, right? But there's a whole lot of districts that saw that lack, and there's good ones. When I did the grammar courses, I was getting grammar all over the places. This chapter from this textbook, this one, this one, this one, amazing stuff that's there that people have created. I mean, there's probably a thousand entries that are there. So you can find it. These are the-- AUDIENCE: Your math and science had already sold me. And the history looked pretty good too, so. DEBBIE JENSEN: Yeah. And this is going to be a long haul. But when we get it done, it's going to be so good for all of our students and our teachers as well. And it will be good to know that we're helping people around the world. And we'll be good. All right, so these are the LMSes that it integrates with, the testimonials for us. So you know these people. And they're wonderful. I would play them for you, but you wouldn't hear them. So I can't. OK. Now more things they have available for you. Remember, we are scrolling down the adult education site. That's where we were. That's where we started in subjects. They know that you're going to need help. They have a YouTube channel. These are three to five minutes long on many topics. They just picked three that they thought you might need help with, finding a FlexBook, Insights into FlexBooks, and how to assign them. Then they ask you, are you an educator, or are you a student? Now if I click on that I am an educator, they're going to talk about giving you a tour, choosing the subject. These are the kinds of things that they help you with, the charts for knowing your students and knowing their levels, knowing individual students and what individual students are doing. And then for the student-- so this isn't just a teacher. The student has all this help. Flexi, which is a little chicklet that is in the lower left-hand side-- they can ask questions and get the help. And he'll pop up and give them assistance as they need to. And just this last year, they made Flexi also listen to teachers. So you can ask things that you may not know how to do. Oh, I hit something. OK, ask Flexi your science and math questions. All right, let's see. So if we're a student, what you're going to see-- what time are we done? 3:40. OK, I'll do five more minutes of this, and then we're going to go live and just-- but we are live. What I'm talking about? All right, so here they're talking about how Flexi can help you and help the student, assisting with the learning, answering questions, checking for understanding. I mean, they've got a teacher right there with them. And that's the thing is that-- imagine that you create FlexBooks for the same subject but at different levels, different kinds of problems, specifically for different groups of students that sometimes you haven't been able to help, helps with assignments that helps the student get unstuck and gripe. Even guys that are learning journal, it reminds them of things they didn't do. Even self-reflection. It's like, all right. Now let's go back up here and let's go to-- Oh, no. I need to show you my journey. I don't have the slides. We'll try one more time and then see if we can do the slides so that I can show you how you're going to customize because that was your question about how to do that. All right. So let's go to PowerPoint. And then we're going to share. No. OK, not sure why we're having-- [AUDIO OUT]. That's OK. Now let me scroll past-- OK. OK, so here is a assistant for the kinds of things that they will show you for your students, but they also give you insights and recommendations. Only three out of nine students who turned in this assignment have reached the adaptive practice goal of answering 10 questions correctly. And those are the students that didn't get it done. And here the four top questions that the students missed were these four questions, and we suggest you do this. Very cool. Very cool. And these are the students that passed with flying colors and that you should move on. And this is where you should move them, OK? Very cool. Heat maps-- showing me which students are having troubles. So you can direct your teaching. They even found that some people were confused by all these things they had, so they created this Help button and teaches you how to read the reports and what each of the modalities mean. So they're trying very hard to get you to know what's going on. This is the FlexBooks and how the Flex-- FlexLets, sorry, FlexLets, how they work, preparing for a new school year or review. Students review the lessons, including the interactive videos to adaptive practice. The goal is to be able [ INAUDIBLE ] meeting problems, practice fills in the gaps along the way, that each FlexLet has 20 to 30 lessons. And they anticipate 45 minutes or less. So they're created kind of in a whole package, math ones and science ones. OK. Class code-- so students don't even have to have an account. You can just give them the code, and it'll go there. Now if they have an account, then we're going to be able to set up the class and that kind of stuff if you want to have the class here. This was the FlexLet for-- this is Flexi, and this are questions for the kids, the students here. Ones for the teacher. This is what they got busy with this last summer. And I'm always amazed. If you go through the geometry lesson, if their word is bolded, then if you hover, it gives you the definition. But now they've added some of these that will pop up if it's a concept, and they want to show it to you. Right there in the text. So the thing I like is that CK-12 is always busy trying to improve it. And when we sent in things that we thought that they might be good to do, they do it. So they're very responsive, very nice. OK, this was my search. I needed a math book. So I picked the math book. Remember we saw this? Here. You choose it, the things that you can choose. I want to customize, OK? So the very least you can do is you can put your name in. This is Mrs. Jensen's math class, or this is Baldwin Park Adult Schools basic skills math class. And you can change the image. Remember that you're going-- they suggest Pixabay so that there's not any conflict of that. OK, now this screen is important because this is a confusion that happens. These where it says introduction and integers, those are chapters. The only thing you can edit with a chapter is the name, some of the background that a teacher would be interested in wanting to know the references, things like that you got from. Maybe deleting it or moving it. So you're going to think when you click on that, that you can't do what I tell you you can do. But what you want to do is you want to click on that arrow, and then it opens up the lessons. The lessons are 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, and they go on. That's where the magic is, where you can do the editing. And so over here at 2, if you go to the skinny snowman, you can see Update, Preview update, Edit, Rename, and Move to. There's another one that's Delete. Now this one's a new one. You wont' see it all the time. But what it means is that they have gone back to the science course that you based yours on, and there's nothing. They discovered a new planet. Pluto's no longer a planet, OK? So we want to change. And so they're telling you there is updates for this, and they're going to ask you, do you want to update? Now if you've modified the book, the FlexBook, you might say no, but you could preview it. You could preview it and figure out what they did change, OK? But that's cool because that kind of keeps you feeling like the books are going to stay up with me. That's good. All right. So let's keep going. All right, so this is the rich text editor. And this is the most amazing thing. These are all the things that you can do. You can edit the text. You can color it. You can change the format. You can add emoticons. You can insert, embed images, media, even interactives. And you can just see. And you can start a FlexBook from scratch that has nothing that you are starting from the beginning. You can start from things you find. And so this is where you customize. Now we have a school district that got excited. And they got enough people interested in the adult school to be able to want to start having their teachers create some of these. And so now they're inviting us, OTAN, to go down there for a three day-- three day-- no, no, three-hour presentation, where we work individually with people so that they can get the help of doing that. And we can do that. We need 10 people. They opened it up to their consortium so that they'd be sharing it. And so that's going to happen, and you [ INAUDIBLE ] when you've done everything, be sure you save it. AUDIENCE: Which school district? AUDIENCE: That you're going to [ INAUDIBLE ] DEBBIE JENSEN: [ INAUDIBLE ] AUDIENCE: [ INAUDIBLE ] we're going to have our consortia. DEBBIE JENSEN: Yeah, and that'll come out to you. AUDIENCE: [ INAUDIBLE ] DEBBIE JENSEN: Yeah, that'll be fun. I'll come out to you. OK, how to create a class-- this is how you reassign the work. You can share the link. You can create a class, or you can use the LMS. I use the LMS. It was Google. So they asked me, connect to Google Classroom. They opened up mine, and I had a variety. And so I had to pick the one that was the course I wanted to go into. Now if you have a Google Classroom, you'll recognize the next screen. It's put in classwork, then you move it down to where it belongs. This is the student's view. Here's the icon. They open it up. They do the work. And there's the answers because that's what they got right in the grade book. Isn't that the coolest? AUDIENCE: So when it pops into [ INAUDIBLE ] as a teacher before you assign it that you have that edit option? DEBBIE JENSEN: Yeah. AUDIENCE: OK, before. DEBBIE JENSEN: Yeah, so you edit everything you want to do, so it's all done on CK-12. Bring it into-- AUDIENCE: Oh, before. DEBBIE JENSEN: Right. Whatever you want to change in that. And then you bring it in here. But remember, when you put it in Google Classroom, you have options of how you want it to present. And you still have those. AUDIENCE: [ INAUDIBLE ] but can we limit sharing of the FlexBook to colleague or the agency? DEBBIE JENSEN: I know that some of the FlexBooks are not-- it's not like you make a FlexBook, and it's public. That does not happen. And that's the only thing I can say. It would seem to me if you want to share it with colleague, all you would do is take the URL and send it to all of them. And they could take it and edit it. Remember, that every time there's a change made, you get a new URL. I can't imagine [ INAUDIBLE ] especially with all the URL. So the question of can two people work on the same time is an interesting question. And we can ask them-- AUDIENCE: They have to do a collaboration. DEBBIE JENSEN: Yeah, that would be interesting to see. OK, so, OK. We talked about insights and all the cool things. Now, remember I told you about Shana Friend, who did these things up in Washington. Oh, I didn't tell you two things. One, she thought her adults need a little bit help on using online. We don't know how to use online. And so she created a series of little three-minute videos. You can add them-- anything that's here. You can add to your course, OK? So those are here. But she went back, and she did some additional changes. And so this is what this means. This means this community contributed. And now there's a new version available if you want to go with it. OK. Oh good. We're in good shape. OK, so we're going to go live again, and then you're going to guide me where you want to go. But I want you to remember the community partners. The high school programs in some of these districts have created literature programs that have the grammar, the literature, the writing, all together. And they're amazing. I was looking for things low enough for an ESL course, but I'm looking at it and going, oh man [AUDIO OUT]. so they're there. You can become a certified educator, OK? It's a series of 10 lessons that they work with, and they're the same things you're going to want to learn to be able to use it. So you can do that. You can differentiate assignments by adding the content so that you can do it that way. But you can also have different courses because you can make a duplicate course. And then you can just modify it, take things out, add things, maybe add some lower level. OK, they also have webinars that are available, and they are working on the updates in the Spanish. All right. This is how I feel about these stories. They're so magical and so much fun. And they empower your students. And I always wanted to try and be able to get my school district excited like I was excited. And sometimes that takes a little-- just a little bit [ INAUDIBLE ] OK, so now let's go live again. And OK. OK. What do you want to look at? You have something you would like to see, that you would like to-- AUDIENCE: Can I see subjects real quick? DEBBIE JENSEN: Uh-huh. AUDIENCE: And let's see. So I currently teach-- let's say there's no Spanish class, right? DEBBIE JENSEN: Oh, I don't know. I don't know. AUDIENCE: Yeah, let's just translate. So-- DEBBIE JENSEN: Well, they said they were working on creating actual Spanish courses. AUDIENCE: Right. I was curious. We can go back and [ INAUDIBLE ] DEBBIE JENSEN: OK, here they are. What do you need? It looks like they have been working on math. It looks like they've been working on math. AUDIENCE: [ INAUDIBLE ] OK, perfect. Let's see. DEBBIE JENSEN: Arithmetic. AUDIENCE: Uh-huh. All right. [ INAUDIBLE ] math. DEBBIE JENSEN: It looks like they're focusing on math. AUDIENCE: Let's find something that-- DEBBIE JENSEN: Isn't it cool? AUDIENCE: --we can already use for the high school-- DEBBIE JENSEN: [ INAUDIBLE ] doesn't understand. It would be nice to know that you could give it to them in Spanish. AUDIENCE: That's right. DEBBIE JENSEN: Just for kicks and giggles. I'm trying to see if they have others. I think I hit something. Looks like I did. OK, I opened up one. And so again, it's the same kind of thing. You'd come here to see the lessons. These are the lessons. OK. All right. Now-- AUDIENCE: So Jose Adreno asked, can this be used to collect all your external resources, like the ones you use for OERs? Is there any copyright issues that you have found from the additions made? DEBBIE JENSEN: Excellent question on both counts. There are teachers that have put all their stuff in here, OK? And when you go to Community Contribute-- and you can scroll down through some of them. They must have used this for a PD Day, and this was their agenda. OK, so they can use it in a variety of ways. The copyright issue is a real good one because it's still valid. You're still held. If you put in stuff from your Burlington or Ventures or something like that, you've got a copyright issue. Does CK-12 come after you? They may not or may see it, but it's illegal. And they don't want you to do it. And so you're still [ INAUDIBLE ] You just don't need to deal with that. OK, what else did you want to look at? AUDIENCE: [ INAUDIBLE ] Let's see what grade level-- DEBBIE JENSEN: Why? Am I still in Spanish? AUDIENCE: No. DEBBIE JENSEN: No, no. OK, so we have a couple. World history and US history. AUDIENCE: OK. Perfect. DEBBIE JENSEN: Which one do you want to look at? AUDIENCE: World history, sure. DEBBIE JENSEN: OK. And sometimes you just look at it. This is the base. Then I'm going to add all this cool stuff I want to add. And sometimes it's an issue of turning it around. For me, math is taught in a certain order. And so that's what I had to do was just click orders of things. Foundations, emergence and collapses of classical empires, Persia-- we'll see. Learning objectives-- the rise-- I think it needs more pictures here. Well, they've got a thing from Khan Academy. Oh, that's right. Khan Academy has gone into history, hasn't it? Interesting. That would be interesting to find out what they've done. OK? Well, there's your video from Khan. Then there's your discussion questions, your sources. And I'm trying to see if there's a quiz. I'm not seeing any. So history-- something you can start with. AUDIENCE: So maybe if you use those [ INAUDIBLE ] I'm sorry. I'm just looking at the green boxes, yeah. DEBBIE JENSEN: So now I can highlight it. And then that goes into the-- AUDIENCE: Jose Adorna also said just to clarify, the translations are the exact copies and layout of their English counterpart. DEBBIE JENSEN: That's a good question, and I'm not positive, I would imagine. But I've not checked that, so I can't say. I don't know. Would you like to assign it? All right. Now let's take a look at places. And first, because I don't teach science directly, I didn't see the application. But then when I saw that it was about simple interest, I said, OK, I got that. I can apply that to my adults. Order of operation, common denominators-- OK, so yeah. There was application for me here. And then if I-- that's arithmetic. If I go to life science-- photosynthesis-- so there were things. I could see. I could see places that I would use it. OK, what else do you want to look at? AUDIENCE: [ INAUDIBLE ] DEBBIE JENSEN: I hope-- AUDIENCE: [ INAUDIBLE ] say that we [ INAUDIBLE ] prep course at our college. And it does touch on all subjects, which sometimes can be a little difficult. It is also a hybrid class, so there is stuff that is assigned. And I can see this as the resource for some of the instructors. And, of course, [ INAUDIBLE ] but it's a little different. So they can use this. So I do see that it's helpful, especially when you're teaching the different levels because [ INAUDIBLE ] Math levels can range. And so this is very helpful. DEBBIE JENSEN: Yes. That's what I know. I found that CK-12 was good. It was helpful in my class. I enjoyed working on it. And I like the responsiveness of the company. They've been around since 2007. I don't [ INAUDIBLE ] But I do know that this is helpful to [ INAUDIBLE ] And so that's what I hope it will be helpful too. If there's nothing else that I can show you, if you want to try and reach me, I would be more than happy to help. Let's see. Stop the share. And let's go back. My contact information is here . There's SCOE, djensen, Debbie Jensen. SCOE is the Sacramento County Office of Education. That's what OTAN is under. AUDIENCE: You want to share the screen so-- DEBBIE JENSEN: So it's bigger? Oh, yes, I did not do that. So they can't see it. Ah. Yes, yes, yes. Thank you for keeping me honest. OK. And also-- AUDIENCE: [ INAUDIBLE ] answering the questions [ INAUDIBLE ] to say. Thank you for answering those questions. DEBBIE JENSEN: I hope that this will be helpful. I have been in other groups, and they get excited. And they take you back. And this is just us starting little fires. And that's a good thing. CK-12 is extremely responsive. So if you have questions, you can contact them as well. They're excited. This presentation is here. So if you want to have the slides, they're here. If you want to learn more, just call Melinda. [CHUCKLES] You say catch 10 people will come to you. And we'll walk everybody through. [ INAUDIBLE ] Buying something with that 15 minutes, buying something. OK, now let's put it into a FlexBook. OK, now you've got it. Now how are you going to customize it?