WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.479 align:middle line:90% [UPLIFTING MUSIC] 00:00:03.479 --> 00:00:15.515 align:middle line:90% 00:00:15.515 --> 00:00:17.510 align:middle line:90% So my name is Jonathan Simon. 00:00:17.510 --> 00:00:20.660 align:middle line:84% I'm one of the two principal portfolio 00:00:20.660 --> 00:00:24.500 align:middle line:84% managers of the JP Morgan American Investment Trust. 00:00:24.500 --> 00:00:26.840 align:middle line:84% I have spent the bulk of my career-- 00:00:26.840 --> 00:00:28.610 align:middle line:84% actually, more than 30 years-- being 00:00:28.610 --> 00:00:31.790 align:middle line:84% based in New York with JP Morgan Asset 00:00:31.790 --> 00:00:35.330 align:middle line:84% Management as an equity portfolio manager. 00:00:35.330 --> 00:00:39.500 align:middle line:84% Interestingly, my co-PM, whose name is Tim Parton, 00:00:39.500 --> 00:00:40.940 align:middle line:90% has a fairly similar profile. 00:00:40.940 --> 00:00:43.560 align:middle line:84% He moved to New York, I think, in the early 1990s, 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:46.070 align:middle line:90% so just over 30 years ago. 00:00:46.070 --> 00:00:50.150 align:middle line:84% And he's also been a specialist in US equities from that date. 00:00:50.150 --> 00:00:51.590 align:middle line:84% So we have a lot of similarities, 00:00:51.590 --> 00:00:55.550 align:middle line:84% and we are co-portfolio managers of the JP Morgan American 00:00:55.550 --> 00:00:56.315 align:middle line:90% Investment Trust. 00:00:56.315 --> 00:01:03.070 align:middle line:90% 00:01:03.070 --> 00:01:05.650 align:middle line:84% Well, the question of often comes up as, 00:01:05.650 --> 00:01:07.360 align:middle line:90% why invest in the United States? 00:01:07.360 --> 00:01:09.460 align:middle line:84% And in the first answer is clearly 00:01:09.460 --> 00:01:12.290 align:middle line:84% that it is the largest equity market in the world. 00:01:12.290 --> 00:01:17.110 align:middle line:84% In fact, it makes up some 60% of all global equity markets. 00:01:17.110 --> 00:01:19.390 align:middle line:84% But not only that, it also offers 00:01:19.390 --> 00:01:23.860 align:middle line:84% diversification across pretty much every industry. 00:01:23.860 --> 00:01:27.610 align:middle line:84% We always think about technology and the leading companies 00:01:27.610 --> 00:01:31.030 align:middle line:84% and the innovation that comes out of the United States, 00:01:31.030 --> 00:01:34.810 align:middle line:84% but also, you have financial services and health care, 00:01:34.810 --> 00:01:37.060 align:middle line:84% industrial manufacturing-- pretty 00:01:37.060 --> 00:01:39.430 align:middle line:84% much every sector of the global economy 00:01:39.430 --> 00:01:41.770 align:middle line:84% is covered by first-rate companies 00:01:41.770 --> 00:01:43.630 align:middle line:84% that you can invest in in the United States. 00:01:43.630 --> 00:01:49.560 align:middle line:90% 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:51.510 align:middle line:84% JP Morgan American Investment Trust 00:01:51.510 --> 00:01:54.990 align:middle line:84% has 90% of its assets invested in what 00:01:54.990 --> 00:01:57.930 align:middle line:84% we call a core portfolio, which is 00:01:57.930 --> 00:02:00.240 align:middle line:90% managed by Tim Parton and me. 00:02:00.240 --> 00:02:02.770 align:middle line:84% And it's a very concentrated approach. 00:02:02.770 --> 00:02:06.070 align:middle line:84% So we only own 40 stocks in total. 00:02:06.070 --> 00:02:09.030 align:middle line:84% But in the case of Tim, he's investing predominantly 00:02:09.030 --> 00:02:11.970 align:middle line:84% in growth companies in the US, and I'm 00:02:11.970 --> 00:02:15.600 align:middle line:84% trying to identify value opportunities with the other 20 00:02:15.600 --> 00:02:17.610 align:middle line:90% stocks in the portfolio. 00:02:17.610 --> 00:02:20.230 align:middle line:84% And what this means is that over time, 00:02:20.230 --> 00:02:25.020 align:middle line:84% we don't necessarily do well or badly in a particular market 00:02:25.020 --> 00:02:25.870 align:middle line:90% environment. 00:02:25.870 --> 00:02:29.910 align:middle line:84% So we think that blending growth and value into one core 00:02:29.910 --> 00:02:34.320 align:middle line:84% portfolio gives the best of all worlds for an investment 00:02:34.320 --> 00:02:35.670 align:middle line:90% in the US equity market. 00:02:35.670 --> 00:02:39.450 align:middle line:84% Clearly, having a portfolio with only 40 stocks 00:02:39.450 --> 00:02:41.580 align:middle line:84% is a fairly concentrated approach. 00:02:41.580 --> 00:02:44.070 align:middle line:84% So we're making active decisions. 00:02:44.070 --> 00:02:49.560 align:middle line:84% And of course, it's available in the investment trust vehicle 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:53.250 align:middle line:84% with low expenses, and over time, 00:02:53.250 --> 00:02:57.600 align:middle line:84% has proven to be not only a good exposure to the US market, 00:02:57.600 --> 00:03:01.140 align:middle line:84% but to do a little bit better than the average investor. 00:03:01.140 --> 00:03:07.370 align:middle line:90% 00:03:07.370 --> 00:03:11.150 align:middle line:84% We both are looking for the same sort of quality characteristics 00:03:11.150 --> 00:03:13.050 align:middle line:90% in the companies we invest in. 00:03:13.050 --> 00:03:16.760 align:middle line:84% So these are typically very strong business models 00:03:16.760 --> 00:03:17.720 align:middle line:90% within their industry. 00:03:17.720 --> 00:03:19.550 align:middle line:84% They may have a very high market share. 00:03:19.550 --> 00:03:22.820 align:middle line:84% And in particular, they have strong management teams. 00:03:22.820 --> 00:03:25.550 align:middle line:84% Now, Tim, of course, is a growth investor. 00:03:25.550 --> 00:03:28.520 align:middle line:84% And he's really looking to grow value 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:30.080 align:middle line:84% by investing in companies that have 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:32.450 align:middle line:84% a strong tailwind from what we call secular 00:03:32.450 --> 00:03:34.740 align:middle line:84% growth in their particular industry, 00:03:34.740 --> 00:03:38.240 align:middle line:84% whereas I might be investing in companies that are in more 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:41.390 align:middle line:84% mature industries, but where the cash flow and the earnings 00:03:41.390 --> 00:03:43.760 align:middle line:84% are strong, and we may get good dividend growth, 00:03:43.760 --> 00:03:47.120 align:middle line:84% and we may find shareholder value growth in other ways. 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:49.820 align:middle line:84% And when it comes to identifying the right management 00:03:49.820 --> 00:03:52.970 align:middle line:84% teams, of course, with a concentrated portfolio where 00:03:52.970 --> 00:03:57.230 align:middle line:84% every holding really has its own significant risk and reward, 00:03:57.230 --> 00:03:59.300 align:middle line:84% we really want to find managements 00:03:59.300 --> 00:04:03.460 align:middle line:84% who have skin in the game, who have their interests aligned 00:04:03.460 --> 00:04:03.960 align:middle line:90% with us. 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:07.550 align:middle line:84% So we'd like to see them have a significant equity ownership 00:04:07.550 --> 00:04:09.590 align:middle line:84% themselves, and that be the important driver 00:04:09.590 --> 00:04:12.000 align:middle line:84% of how they think about managing the company, 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:13.850 align:middle line:84% they think about risks, they think 00:04:13.850 --> 00:04:17.550 align:middle line:84% about how to grow the value over the long-term. 00:04:17.550 --> 00:04:20.519 align:middle line:84% And so insider ownership, as we call it, 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:23.160 align:middle line:90% is an important characteristic. 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:25.550 align:middle line:84% Now, obviously, these companies-- 00:04:25.550 --> 00:04:29.460 align:middle line:84% there does come a time when we need to move on. 00:04:29.460 --> 00:04:34.070 align:middle line:84% And so for me, particularly, as a value investor, 00:04:34.070 --> 00:04:37.700 align:middle line:84% we've identified a good company, it's an attractive valuation. 00:04:37.700 --> 00:04:40.250 align:middle line:84% And a few years later, lo and behold, it's in favor, 00:04:40.250 --> 00:04:41.720 align:middle line:90% and it's a very high valuation. 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:44.600 align:middle line:84% And we feel that's time to maybe recycle 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:47.570 align:middle line:84% into another similarly good company, but one that's 00:04:47.570 --> 00:04:49.940 align:middle line:84% not so much in favor and is trading 00:04:49.940 --> 00:04:51.530 align:middle line:90% at a more attractive valuation. 00:04:51.530 --> 00:04:53.660 align:middle line:84% And that's always a good thing, because it normally 00:04:53.660 --> 00:04:56.960 align:middle line:84% means we've made a nice return in the interim. 00:04:56.960 --> 00:04:59.430 align:middle line:84% There are a few occasions, I have to admit, 00:04:59.430 --> 00:05:03.620 align:middle line:84% when we realize that our analysis of the prospects 00:05:03.620 --> 00:05:06.060 align:middle line:84% of the company-- the fundamentals, as we call them-- 00:05:06.060 --> 00:05:07.430 align:middle line:90% are erroneous. 00:05:07.430 --> 00:05:10.010 align:middle line:84% And so there are times when we have to move on 00:05:10.010 --> 00:05:12.230 align:middle line:90% because we've made a mistake. 00:05:12.230 --> 00:05:14.030 align:middle line:84% Normally we're fairly quick to do that, 00:05:14.030 --> 00:05:16.850 align:middle line:84% and generally, there is another good alternative 00:05:16.850 --> 00:05:18.200 align:middle line:90% to replace the company with. 00:05:18.200 --> 00:05:24.160 align:middle line:90% 00:05:24.160 --> 00:05:29.800 align:middle line:84% So the interesting thing about both Tim Parton and me 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:33.100 align:middle line:84% is that we've been based in New York with JP Morgan 00:05:33.100 --> 00:05:36.250 align:middle line:84% for, I think, probably 30 years in the case of Tim, 00:05:36.250 --> 00:05:38.080 align:middle line:90% and a little bit longer for me. 00:05:38.080 --> 00:05:42.050 align:middle line:84% And being part of JP Morgan, we have the best resources 00:05:42.050 --> 00:05:42.550 align:middle line:90% available. 00:05:42.550 --> 00:05:45.430 align:middle line:84% We're obviously one of the biggest asset managers 00:05:45.430 --> 00:05:48.730 align:middle line:84% in the world and have one of the biggest US equity research 00:05:48.730 --> 00:05:49.840 align:middle line:90% departments. 00:05:49.840 --> 00:05:51.730 align:middle line:84% So it's a great comfort for me, when 00:05:51.730 --> 00:05:55.300 align:middle line:84% I identify a company, that there's an analyst, who 00:05:55.300 --> 00:05:58.960 align:middle line:84% spends much more time than I do, researching 00:05:58.960 --> 00:06:00.460 align:middle line:90% this particular name. 00:06:00.460 --> 00:06:05.740 align:middle line:84% He or she will have much more knowledge of the company. 00:06:05.740 --> 00:06:08.090 align:middle line:84% They'll know the management probably personally. 00:06:08.090 --> 00:06:11.350 align:middle line:84% And so it's a great resource that we have available. 00:06:11.350 --> 00:06:14.530 align:middle line:84% In the case of Tim, he actually has a dedicated team 00:06:14.530 --> 00:06:17.605 align:middle line:84% of growth stock analysts supporting him. 00:06:17.605 --> 00:06:19.730 align:middle line:84% The other thing about being in New York, of course, 00:06:19.730 --> 00:06:21.940 align:middle line:84% is that the company management teams 00:06:21.940 --> 00:06:23.260 align:middle line:90% do like to come to New York. 00:06:23.260 --> 00:06:26.480 align:middle line:84% And typically, JP Morgan will be a port of call for them. 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:29.950 align:middle line:84% So typically, we can actually converse with the management 00:06:29.950 --> 00:06:34.120 align:middle line:84% teams in our own office in New York on a fairly regular basis. 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:38.080 align:middle line:84% Now, naturally, over the course of 2020, 2021, 00:06:38.080 --> 00:06:40.990 align:middle line:84% that wasn't possible because of the COVID restrictions. 00:06:40.990 --> 00:06:43.960 align:middle line:84% But I have to say that we continued, really, 00:06:43.960 --> 00:06:46.270 align:middle line:84% without missing a beat, interviewing management 00:06:46.270 --> 00:06:53.860 align:middle line:84% teams over Zoom, Microsoft Teams, whatever the method was, 00:06:53.860 --> 00:06:56.380 align:middle line:84% and it continued apace during that time. 00:06:56.380 --> 00:06:58.540 align:middle line:90% Now we're almost back to normal. 00:06:58.540 --> 00:07:03.945 align:middle line:90% 00:07:03.945 --> 00:07:05.320 align:middle line:84% Well, one of the great advantages 00:07:05.320 --> 00:07:07.960 align:middle line:84% of an investment trust is the ability 00:07:07.960 --> 00:07:09.310 align:middle line:90% to keep the expenses less. 00:07:09.310 --> 00:07:12.940 align:middle line:84% So we think that the expense ratio for the JP Morgan 00:07:12.940 --> 00:07:16.090 align:middle line:84% American Investment Trust makes it a particularly attractive 00:07:16.090 --> 00:07:17.020 align:middle line:90% vehicle. 00:07:17.020 --> 00:07:21.130 align:middle line:84% But in addition to that, we can use what is called gearing. 00:07:21.130 --> 00:07:23.440 align:middle line:84% So this means a very modest level 00:07:23.440 --> 00:07:26.030 align:middle line:84% of borrowing against the portfolio 00:07:26.030 --> 00:07:29.060 align:middle line:84% so we can issue debt at a low cost. 00:07:29.060 --> 00:07:31.360 align:middle line:84% And if you assume that over time that the 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:34.220 align:middle line:84% returns from the US equity market-- 00:07:34.220 --> 00:07:36.700 align:middle line:84% and I'm talking, you know, long-term-- 00:07:36.700 --> 00:07:39.340 align:middle line:84% will exceed the cost of that borrowing, that, 00:07:39.340 --> 00:07:43.940 align:middle line:84% too, will enhance the ultimate returns to shareholders. 00:07:43.940 --> 00:07:45.730 align:middle line:84% Now, I'm not talking about, you know, 00:07:45.730 --> 00:07:49.600 align:middle line:84% a huge amount of debt here-- you know, typically up to about 10% 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:51.730 align:middle line:84% of the overall portfolio, which we do not 00:07:51.730 --> 00:07:55.760 align:middle line:84% consider to be a significant risk overall. 00:07:55.760 --> 00:07:59.290 align:middle line:84% So that, to me, is something that other investment vehicles 00:07:59.290 --> 00:08:04.150 align:middle line:84% cannot offer, and enhances the JP Morgan Investment 00:08:04.150 --> 00:08:06.280 align:middle line:90% Trust's appeal. 00:08:06.280 --> 00:08:09.910 align:middle line:84% We also have an exposure to the smaller companies 00:08:09.910 --> 00:08:11.860 align:middle line:90% sector in the United States. 00:08:11.860 --> 00:08:17.500 align:middle line:84% We have a strong investment team focusing on small smaller 00:08:17.500 --> 00:08:19.000 align:middle line:90% companies in the US. 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:20.770 align:middle line:84% And again, we'll vary the exposure 00:08:20.770 --> 00:08:23.740 align:middle line:84% to that segment of the trust over time, 00:08:23.740 --> 00:08:26.020 align:middle line:84% depending on how we see the opportunities. 00:08:26.020 --> 00:08:29.290 align:middle line:84% But typically, it makes up between, actually, 00:08:29.290 --> 00:08:31.990 align:middle line:84% zero or 10% of the overall portfolio, 00:08:31.990 --> 00:08:34.179 align:middle line:84% and we think that's another advantage 00:08:34.179 --> 00:08:37.740 align:middle line:84% we have for the American investment trust. 00:08:37.740 --> 00:08:55.000 align:middle line:90%